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B A R R Y[_2_]
November 20th 06, 01:25 PM
I'm currently about 1/2 way to my instrument rating.
I've noticed that my recent training has included most of the standard 
"Wings" recurrent maneuvers, albeit under the hood.  If this instruction 
counts, I believe all I need to cover are emergency procedures to meet 
the requirements.  I haven't yet asked my CFI for his opinion.
What say the group?
Barry C
November 20th 06, 02:55 PM
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B A R R Y > wrote in news:h9h8h.8584$Sw1.5421
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> I'm currently about 1/2 way to my instrument rating.
> 
> I've noticed that my recent training has included most of the standard 
> "Wings" recurrent maneuvers, albeit under the hood.  If this instruction 
> counts, I believe all I need to cover are emergency procedures to meet 
> the requirements.  I haven't yet asked my CFI for his opinion.
> 
> What say the group?
As long as your training consists of the three hours of required 
instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to do for WINGS credit 
is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get that sign-off.  
Barry C.
FAASTeam Rep.
CP-ASEL-IA
B A R R Y[_2_]
November 20th 06, 03:15 PM
Barry C wrote:
> As long as your training consists of the three hours of required 
> instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to do for WINGS credit 
> is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get that sign-off.  
> 
> 
> Barry C.
> FAASTeam Rep.
> CP-ASEL-IA
Thanks, Barry.
I just found AC61-91H, which agrees with you, and states the logbook 
endorsement I need the CFI to make.  I've attended a few seminars this 
year, and plan on hitting another next Monday.
One more question:  Do you know the form number or any other information 
for the FSDO Wings application?   The AC and the SPANS site say to "send 
your application to the FSDO", but I can't seem to locate a specific 
form to do so.  At home I have some signed off seminar attendance forms 
that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the flight 
portion.  Is that the form?  I'm confused, as they don't look like 
typical official FAA documents.
Thanks again!
Jim Macklin
November 20th 06, 03:16 PM
You must attend a safety meeting and complete the 
appropriate training.  Then submit the forms to the FAA 
FSDO.
"B A R R Y" > wrote in message 
 m...
| I'm currently about 1/2 way to my instrument rating.
|
| I've noticed that my recent training has included most of 
the standard
| "Wings" recurrent maneuvers, albeit under the hood.  If 
this instruction
| counts, I believe all I need to cover are emergency 
procedures to meet
| the requirements.  I haven't yet asked my CFI for his 
opinion.
|
| What say the group?
Jim Macklin
November 20th 06, 03:23 PM
The Wings forms are usually available at the 
seminars/meetings or you can contact the local FSDO safety 
officer.  Each FSDO is on-line,
Federal Aviation Administration - Wichita FSDO
      Wichita FSDO. Office Information. Wichita FSDO Service 
Area Map (PDF); Contact the Office ... Washington, DC 20591 
1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322) ...
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Federal Aviation Administration - Wichita FSDO-Contact the 
Office
      Wichita FSDO Contact the Office. Address:. 1801 
Airport Road Suite 300 Wichita, Kansas 67209 ... Washington, 
DC 20591 1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322) ...
      www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/ict/contact/ 
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You can just change the identifier to your local FSDO.
"B A R R Y" > wrote in message 
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| Barry C wrote:
| > As long as your training consists of the three hours of 
required
| > instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to 
do for WINGS credit
| > is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get 
that sign-off.
| >
| >
| > Barry C.
| > FAASTeam Rep.
| > CP-ASEL-IA
|
| Thanks, Barry.
|
| I just found AC61-91H, which agrees with you, and states 
the logbook
| endorsement I need the CFI to make.  I've attended a few 
seminars this
| year, and plan on hitting another next Monday.
|
| One more question:  Do you know the form number or any 
other information
| for the FSDO Wings application?   The AC and the SPANS 
site say to "send
| your application to the FSDO", but I can't seem to locate 
a specific
| form to do so.  At home I have some signed off seminar 
attendance forms
| that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the 
flight
| portion.  Is that the form?  I'm confused, as they don't 
look like
| typical official FAA documents.
|
| Thanks again!
B A R R Y[_2_]
November 20th 06, 03:26 PM
Jim Macklin wrote:
> The Wings forms are usually available at the 
> seminars/meetings 
It sounds like the forms are have are all I need.
Thanks, Guys!
Jose[_1_]
November 20th 06, 04:40 PM
> At home I have some signed off seminar attendance forms that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the flight portion.  Is that the form?
Yes, that's the form.  It's not well designed (makes no provision for 
instruction that is not exactly one hour, or from different instructors, 
but the FAA doesn't seem to care if you do it that way.
Jose
-- 
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where 
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
Jim Macklin
November 20th 06, 05:42 PM
Just be sure to put the flights and the seminar in your 
logbook too.  Be sure to have your CFI sign the logbook and 
the form and that the form was signed by the seminar sponsor 
also.  It is a good idea to indicate the flights that 
constitute the Wings training.
"Jose" > wrote in message 
. com...
|> At home I have some signed off seminar attendance forms 
that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the 
flight portion.  Is that the form?
|
| Yes, that's the form.  It's not well designed (makes no 
provision for
| instruction that is not exactly one hour, or from 
different instructors,
| but the FAA doesn't seem to care if you do it that way.
|
| Jose
| -- 
| "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you 
can't see where
| it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry 
Potter).
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.
Barry C
November 21st 06, 11:33 PM
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B A R R Y > wrote in
. com: 
> Barry C wrote:
>> As long as your training consists of the three hours of required 
>> instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to do for WINGS
>> credit is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get that
>> sign-off.  
>> 
>> 
>> Barry C.
>> FAASTeam Rep.
>> CP-ASEL-IA
> 
> Thanks, Barry.
> 
> One more question:  Do you know the form number or any other
> information for the FSDO Wings application?   The AC and the SPANS
> site say to "send your application to the FSDO", but I can't seem to
> locate a specific form to do so.  At home I have some signed off
> seminar attendance forms that include spaces for date / details / CFI
> info for the flight portion.  Is that the form?  I'm confused, as they
> don't look like typical official FAA documents.
I'm not sure what form is used where you are.  The form we use certainly 
isn't "formal". ;-) What you describe sounds like the form that is 
needed. When in doubt, though, talk with someone at your local FSDO.
Barry
> 
> Thanks again!
>
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